Monday Morning: O.D.M's Eternal Nemesis
Most working professionals can not think on Monday morning, so does O.D.M, but he takes it to another level.
In order not to degrade O.D.M’s clean level of political Commentary and at the same time to avoid being stingy to his fellow Disobedients, O.D.M will comment on the most interesting article submitted to him in bullet forms, and participate in the comment section to reader’s views.
Today’s Exclusive News bit comes from an Israeli website, that usually breaks up the news before it happens. How? Through a man made organism that was created from Nostradamous’ ball hair, found in his tomb. This organism has nothing but a mouth and three nipples.
O.D.M Exclusive: UN Hariri investigator gets a helping hand from Assad’s uncle Rifat
Detlev Mehlis, head of the UN team investigating the murder-plot against former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri, was armed with a secret weapon when he visited Damascus this last weekend. The Syrians, who deny any role in the death, now says the UN investigators are welcome.
That weapon is the testimony taken from Col. Zuheiri Safi, a Syrian intelligence officer who defected to Paris in early August and proved a gold-mine. He supplied his French intelligence interrogators with the names of colleagues directly complicit in the assassination. He also named the contact men in President Bashar Assad’s bureau and among his close aides who were instrumental in the various stages of preparing the conspiracy.
Among them is the director of Syrian military intelligence Asaf Shouaqat, the president’s brother-in-law.
O.D.M’s Washington sources reveal that the assistance rendered by the Syrian president’s uncle Rifat Assad was crucial in getting Col. Safi to open up. He liaised between him and the American and French parties on the terms of his defection. Without his mediation, our sources say, the Syrian intelligence officer would not have defected and there would be no direct evidence linking President Assad’s bureau to the crime.
It must be said here that Rifat has a vested interest in his nephew’s downfall. He has long harbored ambitions to become president of Syria and, with Bashar gone, he would be a leading candidate to succeed him.
With this clincher in hand, Washington warned Assad not to attend the UN General Assembly opening in New York this week. If he insisted, he would be the only member of the Syrian delegation admitted to the US on a diplomatic passport. The others, including his bodyguard, would have to line up for ordinary visas at the US consulate in Damascus.
The Syrian president decided to stay at home.
Mehlis, also armed with information obtained from the four senior Lebanese security officers - all Syrian allies, arrested in Beirut ten days ago - will demand in Damascus to interview top Syrian intelligence officers. He may also ask to see president Assad.
O.D.M’s comments:
-Bullshit!
-Finding Rifaat Assad is harder than O.D.M stocking Angelina Jolie. Some people say he’s dead, others say in a coma, yet others say he’s in a gay parade in Sao Paolo, but O.D.M’s x-girl living in Marbella confirmed she saw him in flesh and blood cruising in there.
-Rifaat Assad has less chance of getting Syrian Presidency than Syria having a gay president.
-Next Syrian Regime (whenever it comes), is going to be democratically elected. Many people are sick and are only going with the status quo. If shit goes down the drain, we will clean the bowl, and prepare it for fresh shit.
-Nobody knows what really is happening. As far as O.D.M knows, Bashar Assad himself doesn’t know who did it. Whoever did it is not dumb enough to let more than one person know about it. No way on earth there are documented phone conversations and communication, or a picture of the assassin saying “Cheese” while pulling the bomb wire on Harriri’s motorcade. Killing the MOST IMPORTANT MAN IN LEBANON, should be done professionally. Syria has over 30 years of professional experience in Assassinating; if it were them, it would not be like this.
-At least 2 Syrians will be involved. Syria will willingly hand them over.
-Economic Sanctions are coming,
-No way Syria, as some commentator said, will pull “an Anwar Sadat” style peace with Israel, to strike a “save our asses” deal. That means a bloody revolt in Syria.
-If Mehlis has all the evidence, what the hell is he waiting for?
-Mehlis’ glasses are way too thick for a detective. Can he really see the evidence?
-Monitoring the situation should is very interesting.
O.D.M Discussable Opinions:
-Order of Assasination did not come from Bashar Assad, he knew better. Syria was already under 1559, and Pressure on Lahoud extension, Iraqi border. He knew that was a political suicide.
-A detective’s first question is always, what was the motivation/who benefited the most out of outcome? O.D.M is bigger than blaming left and right, but Syria had a better motivation assassinating Aoun/ Junblatt, than Harriri. Who benefited the most?
-Bashar Assad will outlast Bush, until 2008. But Syrian Parliament will be given legal rights, in the hand of the people. Thanks to the Civil Disobedience Movement initiated by The One and Only O.D.M. The Ultimatum will be granted early 2006.
-America in No shape or form can target Syria militarily; Syria can quadruple the insurgency movement in Iraq, let alone the fight in Syria. Also, world community will not let that happen. A little note: Just in case of war, O.D.M will be the first to fight. By hiring pretty Prostitute Assassins, who would lure horny American fighters into death.
-Syria can better handle the situation by making up evidence that Ghazi Kanaan ordered Harriri killed, show it to international community, and then assassinate Kanaan in his house, with an Absolute Vodka bottle next to him and a suicide letter, with a glock in his hand. Perfect suicide.
-Junblatt should watch over his back very closely. More and more Syrian Politicians are weary of his yet growing influence on Lebanese external and internal affairs.
Civil Disobedience Movement is watching closely, and members are joining in, let me know your opinions.
In order not to degrade O.D.M’s clean level of political Commentary and at the same time to avoid being stingy to his fellow Disobedients, O.D.M will comment on the most interesting article submitted to him in bullet forms, and participate in the comment section to reader’s views.
Today’s Exclusive News bit comes from an Israeli website, that usually breaks up the news before it happens. How? Through a man made organism that was created from Nostradamous’ ball hair, found in his tomb. This organism has nothing but a mouth and three nipples.
O.D.M Exclusive: UN Hariri investigator gets a helping hand from Assad’s uncle Rifat
Detlev Mehlis, head of the UN team investigating the murder-plot against former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri, was armed with a secret weapon when he visited Damascus this last weekend. The Syrians, who deny any role in the death, now says the UN investigators are welcome.
That weapon is the testimony taken from Col. Zuheiri Safi, a Syrian intelligence officer who defected to Paris in early August and proved a gold-mine. He supplied his French intelligence interrogators with the names of colleagues directly complicit in the assassination. He also named the contact men in President Bashar Assad’s bureau and among his close aides who were instrumental in the various stages of preparing the conspiracy.
Among them is the director of Syrian military intelligence Asaf Shouaqat, the president’s brother-in-law.
O.D.M’s Washington sources reveal that the assistance rendered by the Syrian president’s uncle Rifat Assad was crucial in getting Col. Safi to open up. He liaised between him and the American and French parties on the terms of his defection. Without his mediation, our sources say, the Syrian intelligence officer would not have defected and there would be no direct evidence linking President Assad’s bureau to the crime.
It must be said here that Rifat has a vested interest in his nephew’s downfall. He has long harbored ambitions to become president of Syria and, with Bashar gone, he would be a leading candidate to succeed him.
With this clincher in hand, Washington warned Assad not to attend the UN General Assembly opening in New York this week. If he insisted, he would be the only member of the Syrian delegation admitted to the US on a diplomatic passport. The others, including his bodyguard, would have to line up for ordinary visas at the US consulate in Damascus.
The Syrian president decided to stay at home.
Mehlis, also armed with information obtained from the four senior Lebanese security officers - all Syrian allies, arrested in Beirut ten days ago - will demand in Damascus to interview top Syrian intelligence officers. He may also ask to see president Assad.
O.D.M’s comments:
-Bullshit!
-Finding Rifaat Assad is harder than O.D.M stocking Angelina Jolie. Some people say he’s dead, others say in a coma, yet others say he’s in a gay parade in Sao Paolo, but O.D.M’s x-girl living in Marbella confirmed she saw him in flesh and blood cruising in there.
-Rifaat Assad has less chance of getting Syrian Presidency than Syria having a gay president.
-Next Syrian Regime (whenever it comes), is going to be democratically elected. Many people are sick and are only going with the status quo. If shit goes down the drain, we will clean the bowl, and prepare it for fresh shit.
-Nobody knows what really is happening. As far as O.D.M knows, Bashar Assad himself doesn’t know who did it. Whoever did it is not dumb enough to let more than one person know about it. No way on earth there are documented phone conversations and communication, or a picture of the assassin saying “Cheese” while pulling the bomb wire on Harriri’s motorcade. Killing the MOST IMPORTANT MAN IN LEBANON, should be done professionally. Syria has over 30 years of professional experience in Assassinating; if it were them, it would not be like this.
-At least 2 Syrians will be involved. Syria will willingly hand them over.
-Economic Sanctions are coming,
-No way Syria, as some commentator said, will pull “an Anwar Sadat” style peace with Israel, to strike a “save our asses” deal. That means a bloody revolt in Syria.
-If Mehlis has all the evidence, what the hell is he waiting for?
-Mehlis’ glasses are way too thick for a detective. Can he really see the evidence?
-Monitoring the situation should is very interesting.
O.D.M Discussable Opinions:
-Order of Assasination did not come from Bashar Assad, he knew better. Syria was already under 1559, and Pressure on Lahoud extension, Iraqi border. He knew that was a political suicide.
-A detective’s first question is always, what was the motivation/who benefited the most out of outcome? O.D.M is bigger than blaming left and right, but Syria had a better motivation assassinating Aoun/ Junblatt, than Harriri. Who benefited the most?
-Bashar Assad will outlast Bush, until 2008. But Syrian Parliament will be given legal rights, in the hand of the people. Thanks to the Civil Disobedience Movement initiated by The One and Only O.D.M. The Ultimatum will be granted early 2006.
-America in No shape or form can target Syria militarily; Syria can quadruple the insurgency movement in Iraq, let alone the fight in Syria. Also, world community will not let that happen. A little note: Just in case of war, O.D.M will be the first to fight. By hiring pretty Prostitute Assassins, who would lure horny American fighters into death.
-Syria can better handle the situation by making up evidence that Ghazi Kanaan ordered Harriri killed, show it to international community, and then assassinate Kanaan in his house, with an Absolute Vodka bottle next to him and a suicide letter, with a glock in his hand. Perfect suicide.
-Junblatt should watch over his back very closely. More and more Syrian Politicians are weary of his yet growing influence on Lebanese external and internal affairs.
Civil Disobedience Movement is watching closely, and members are joining in, let me know your opinions.
posted by The One and Only One Disobedient Mofo @ 12:33 PM
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The stiffest warning to Syria yet was issued Monday by US Iraq ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad
September 12, 2005, 7:48 PM (GMT+02:00)
“Our patience is running out,” he said at news conference over help Damascus is giving radical groups in Iraq.
Asked how Washington would respond, the ambassador said “all options are on the table,” including military.
The United States believes Iraqi Sunnis are holding back on the new Iraqi constitution because of threats from Sunni extremists who have infiltrated from Syria, where they have training camps, said Khalilzad. He spoke as the UN investigator of the Hariri murder arrived in Damascus to interview Syrian officials suspected of instigating the plot.
WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE GOVERN SYRIA?
The Al-Seyassah newspaper in Kuwait, a maverick trailblazer when it comes to freedom of the press in the Arab world, has an interesting article this morning about the investigation of Mehlis. It reports that when Rafik Hariri visited Assad the last time, that fateful ten minute meeting, Hariri recorded the conversation that took place including the threats Assad dispensed with so easily using a special pen that Jacques Chirac of France gave it to him after complaining to Chirac of the menaces and threats he usually receives every time he visits Assad.
The article continues that Mehlis intends to have Assad listen to the tape when he visits Syria tomorrow in pursuit of the truth of who killed Hariri.
For one moment, just put yourself in Assad’s shoes listening to a tape that demonstrates his gangster style of politics. Imagine for a moment what the first words Assad will utter after he hears himself threatening Hariri. Will he say: “This is fake, I never said that”? Or will he say: “This is taken out of context, he threatened me first’? Or will he simply just breakdown and cry while confessing to the killing?
All of this of course is hypothetical.
What we Syrians and many others fail to see in this tragedy is something that goes deeper than the whole investigation.
What kinds of people are governing Syria today?
The world over, statesmen, leaders, and aspirers for government office compete to show off their qualities to place in the service of the public. The public can see a Ghandi or an Adenauer as easily as these people see themselves as servants of their own people. They serve to accomplish greatness for a cause that is larger than the person serving. Churchill was that kind of man.
In Syria, the whole country is governed by thugs, literally and figuratively. Men who ask to be served by the masses. They tend to be the center of fake adoration and forced love. There is no greatness in the Assad clan. There is only selfishness, corruption, and abuse of power. Syria deserves much better than that and there will be no tears shed when this clan falls on its head. In fact, Syria will celebrate that day like no other.
It is our duty as Syrians to insure that we transition ourselves to a democracy peacefully, to protect the minorities including the Alawite sect from acts of revenge or violence and to assist the Kurds who suffered greatly, to open up the country with freedoms whether one of expression, of suffrage, or political participation, to become a strong nation because only through strength can we be peaceful, to build an economy where individuals are empowered to excel and not to limit their ambitions, to strengthen women’s movements so that they can help educate our future generations of steady leaders, and to generate the energy it takes to re-build our country after 42 years of destructive policies.
With unity, we can achieve our dream. With peace, we can regain our dignity.
I read somewhere that over 40% of foreign fighters were Saudi Arabian. and the breakdown of insurgents was :
1- Saudi
2- Egyptian
3- Other NAtionalities
Anon @ 2:43:
I agree with everything you said in your comment except excluding every member of the Assad clan from greatness.
It is already known that this President (Bashar) is a failure, and anything that anybody else says is not true.
Haffez Assad had circumnstances that needed emergency laws and repressing all those who wanted his downfall. He had many groups of people, financed internally and externally that never wanted to see Syria stable after independence. The same people that made tens of coups prior to Haffez Assad, O.D.B refered to them at the end of his first post under "tribute to Haffez Assad". http://syrianistician.blogspot.com/2005/08/intro.html
I don't fully agree with everything O.D.M said about him. But he did indeed have a vision. In his quest to achieve his vision (which sometimes exceeded reality), made him carry Syria through many bumpy rides, that made her go from point A to point B, but at a cost of doing a little damage to the body. That is not the point.
Regardless of what theory applies: recording pens, deflected officials or any other evidence, only time shall tell us what really happened.
Until then, All I can say is that under no circumnstance shall we agree to live like that in Syria, like sheep led by a shepard to the slaughterhouse. That's why I found the Disobedience Ultimatum very promising, and if O.D.M is sincere in the method of appealing to the Syrian Masses, we should all follow suit, because there is no better idea of radical change in Syria, than a peaceful force of change.
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We can't just wipe out every single Baathist and person in this Government.
This is the only viable Government that we have currently, with preestablished systems and plans of running this country ( only running it with a shahhata).
Given that our only other alternative (well established political party) is the Muslim Brothers, The Civil Disobedience Movement only demands our citizens rights to be heard in the Parliament, with a third of all powers rendered in Governing Syria. That third is not for the Civil Disobedience Movement alone, it is for all Syrians, except gays, and people who have no difference between the letters "P" and "B".
Through the parliament, we would address issues such as corruption, economy, education, emplyment, foreign policy....etc
Thank you for your comments.
"-Syria can better handle the situation by making up evidence that Ghazi Kanaan ordered Harriri killed, show it to international community, and then assassinate Kanaan in his house, with an Absolute Vodka bottle next to him and a suicide letter, with a glock in his hand. Perfect suicide."
Mehlis will find it out. You should watch more Discovery Channel. All it needs is for like the assasin to loose one hair on the crime scene and they'll find him.
"-Junblatt should watch over his back very closely. More and more Syrian Politicians are weary of his yet growing influence on Lebanese external and internal affairs."
Jumblatt constantly switches opinions, so much that his quotes are relegated to the small articles in the 4th or 5th page of newspapers. Some lebanese thing that he's becoming senile, and there's a new verb in the lebanese language for people who turn their back on you and change opinion: "jamblat"... (hayda el hay2a, jamblatlak...)
He's just the guy who likes to be under the spotlight when something important happens, and the others let him be because they know he'll also be the one taking the beating if something goes wrong.
"there will be no tears shed when this clan falls on its head. In fact, Syria will celebrate that day like no other."
Lebanese joke (I know you love them):
Bashar el Assad goes to a fortune teller. She says to him:
-"I can see that you will die during a lebanese national holiday"
Bashar:
-"Really? What national holiday is that?"
The teller:
-"It's not a national holiday yet, but it will become one when you die."
The rats are attempting to both flee the sinking ship and take over the helm at the same time. As reported here previously, there is a palpable sense inside knowledgeable Syrian circles that elements of the Assad clan and intelligence apparatus have already initiated plans to replace Assad II--now essentially caricatured as a fledgling amateur with little to no credibility.
As a serious implosion is likely imminent, there is greater impetus now more than ever to actively engage the regime and remnants of the regime to forestall an even more percipitous freefall into reactionary and nationally damaging measures from taking hold in Syria.
Al Seyassah, an independent Kuwaiti newspaper, reported on September 12 that confidential sources said Syrian President Bashar Assad has received offers from Arab and GCC countries to host him in any place he wants in return for resigning his post.
The newspaper added that the sources confirmed there were several trails of evidence surfacing in Syria which support the belief that the current Syrian regime has entered a "countdown" stage. Al Seyassah continued that "sources said Assad's request to Arab presidents to defend his policies in the international summit was refused, causing him disappointment". Al Seyassah also reported that "sources said that Abdel Halim Khaddam, the current Syrian vice-president, who is now in Paris, is contemplating remaining in the French capital to avoid the conflicts happening in Syria.
He will not return until changes within the Syrian regime occur, which he is expecting [will occur] soon"Al Seyassah added that its sources confirmed a conflict is ongoing between Assad - and his brother Maher - with their brother-in-law Asef Shawkat, who is head of Syria's intelligence apparatus. Al Seyassah reported that Shawkat has addressed letters to Paris and Washington revealing "the truth" behind the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, in return for certain guarantees of holding a position in the new Syrian regime. - Al Seyassah, Kuwait
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We all agree on one thing. This style of government will end soon. The opposition gives the regime weeks, I think it will alst a couple of more years.
The opposition now has no support from Syrians, they don't know anything about them, their parties or agenda.
The only way is to convince Assad, to give the people some say in the parliament, which is a very good idea. For him, it is buying time, for us, it is more say in shaping our way of life.
I live in Syria, and I am telling you, people here barely make it, and the calls of opposition leaders for absolute support does not appeal to ordianry Syrians, because they just want to continue with their life, which they barely make it. Stability is a higher priority to people living below average economic standards in here than asking for a regime change that nobody knows what to expect.
Most people here don't know the diefference between federacy, republic, democracy...etc
I agree with the Civil Disobedience Movement, I believe that spreading the word, and getting more and more of this word to private emails, word of mouth, and even advertising it on Arab Satellite Channels after getting much support will gain the respect and loyalty of all Syrians.
Especially when all we are asking for is a mass peaceful civil disobedience in case the peoples voice isn't heard.
When I send an email to 20 friends I know, and ask each of them to send it to 20 friends they know, we will gain a ripple effect that is desperately needed for this movement. O.D.M and other activists are looking for supporters, in both the financial and adminstrative aspects, and once that is achieved, we can have direct marketing of the movement to ordianry Syrians with no internet access.
I encourage all blog readers to tell their friends about this idea, once they fully understand what it demands and what it conveys.
Syria Forever
"Most people here don't know the diefference between federacy, republic, democracy...etc"
They will ask for a change as soon as there is an economic boost and that their situation gets better. I have learned that in Political Science, and BTW the 2004 year in lebanon was the best economic year in like the last decade.
"BTW the 2004 year in lebanon was the best economic year in like the last decade"
That was a result of tourism trends growing year by year in Lebanon. In syria, the economy is getting worst day by day. So accordsing to your theory, we should be loving Assad more and more.
We will not learn unless we decide to take action.
Nice blog Disobedient mother fucker! i love the name...
Count me in...I always disobey, even when I obey!!!!!!
Those who let ideology and misinformation color their analyses and policies are doomed to failure. This is the Arab world's paradox regarding terrorism and Iraq, as well as Israel and the United States, socioeconomic development, human rights and democracy.
For instance, the typical view of terrorism comes from the head of Egypt's al-Azhar mosque-university, Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi. He is a pillar of mainstream, establishment Islam. In general, Tantawi will say nothing Egypt's government dislikes.
Tantawi is often called a moderate and, sad to say, in relative terms he is one. But he is also typical of a major trend in which mainstream clerics are increasingly influenced by radical Islamists. A decade ago Tantawi would probably have defined suicide bombing as heretical in Islamic terms.
In recent years, though, Tantawi gives a definition, by far the most popular one among Arabs, that justifies the vast majority of terrorist acts originating from the Middle East. There is no excuse, he explains, for any attack in Arab countries aiming to kill Muslims. But it is ok to blow oneself up among: "An enemy who came to kill me, and I have no way of defending myself except for blowing myself up among this enemy who came to kill me and my countrymen, or to attack what is sacred – in such a case, whoever blows himself up is a martyr" (MEMRI translation).
In other words, anything is permitted in self-defense. At times he implies this does not include deliberately killing civilians – that is what makes him a relative moderate – but this clause is played down. The three real keys to being a proper martyr are: being under attack, facing an evil enemy, and lacking any alternative.
One problem here is that anything can be justified if it can be called self-defense. Yet some deeds are criminal no matter what the rationale. Equally, once the door is opened to terrorism in principle many excuses can be used to justify it.
If al-Qaida and other extremists define as legitimate killing anyone they view to be opposing their rule (which they equate with God), the moderates can merely limit the appropriate victims to non-Muslims.
BUT THIS is just the beginning of the problem of the acceptance of this approach by the overwhelming majority of the Arab world. The most disturbing aspect is that it fits with the false characterization of Israel, the US, and sometimes the entire West. It becomes necessary to claim that the West is inherently aggressive and is trying to take over the Muslim, or at least Arab, world, leaving the "victims" no alternative to terrorism.
In reality, of course, Israel has basically been eager to make a deal to get out of the "occupied" territories for at least 12 years and would have been willing to do so even earlier in exchange for a real peace agreement ending the conflict.
Similarly, the US wants to get its forces out of Iraq as soon as the situation is stable enough there to do so. In short, the terrorists are ensuring the continuation of the very situations they claim as grievances, using them to block moderate solutions and to gain power. The charges of foreign aggression and ruthlessness, combined with a lack of alternatives to violence, are false.
The Iraq issue cuts to the core of the dominant discussion and politics of the Arab world today. In an al-Ahram article entitled "The end of Arab Iraq," Abdallah al-Ashaal, a former assistant to the Egyptian foreign minister, attributes the new Iraqi constitution to American machinations designed to destroy Iraq by stoking ethnic conflicts there.
Here again, critical facts are ignored. The Iraqi constitution is shaped by the demands for decentralization of Kurds and the Shi'ite Arabs – who are, after all, about 80 percent of the population. And that determination is the product of their ill-treatment by the Arab nationalist (and largely Sunni) dictatorships that ruled the country for 45 years.
Yet it is impossible for mainstream Arab nationalists (or Sunni Islamists) to admit that fact. They must blame this antagonism on American imperialist conspiracies. Just as in the failure to face terrorism or such problems as the Arab world's political-economic backwardness, a refusal to confront the real issue makes solving the problem impossible.
It is "ridding Iraq" of Arab identity which "really motivated the US invasion," al-Ashaal claims, inaccurately implying that Iraq might not even stay in the Arab League. Well, what about the universal Arab state support for the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq, the failure of anyone to lift a finger to help the Iraqi dissidents, the Arab world's failure to help post-Saddam Iraq, and its continuing sponsorship and applause for terrorists murdering thousands of Iraqis?
On this, not a word. Yet these are the kinds of experiences that make Iraqis want to rid their country of the type of Arab nationalism that subjected them to almost a half-century of dictatorship, war and suffering.
In contrast, visitors to the Kurdish north of Iraq describe a prosperous, stable area, with rising living standards. As Nimrod Raphaeli of MEMRI writes, summarizing these reports: "An environment of democracy and freedom appears to prevail across Iraqi Kurdistan."
Are people there, or in the Shi'ite south that suffered so greatly under an Arab nationalist regime, so foolish to reject this disastrous system and philosophy? As long as the current ideology of victimization and distortion dominates Arab decision making, the situation will not improve, and could even deteriorate further.
anon@12:49,generalyl i do not liek the cut and paste, but i do see the relationship between what is written in regards to iraq, and syria.
both countries are/were secular in nature and not dominated by religion.
so, there is similarities, especially post assad.
Syria is predomintly Sunni, with 12 % Alawites, 3 % Yazidis, 2% Kurds Ismailis and others, and about 6% Christian.
It will never be a problem for anybody, since Assad allied with many sunnis, and most Christians have as much rights as Sunnis in ASsad's Allawite rule.
In other words, we have no opressed rights of any minorities, other than the few kurds we know of. And as far as Muslims (in all sects), Christians, and everybody else, the Kurdish dream of Kurdistan is not viable with us, We will be more than happy to transport them to Bu Kamal, or Northern Iraq, or they can live the way they are living in here.
Tareq,
Your quote " the Kurdish dream of Kurdistan is not viable with us, We will be more than happy to transport them to Bu Kamal, or Northern Iraq, or they can live the way they are living in here. "
Sounds EXACTLY like the Israeli's viewpoint on the Palestinians....mmmmm, curious.
And, if you dont believe me - substitute Palestinians for Kurds,(in your quote above) and replace Bu Kamal and Northern Iraq, with Egypt and Jordan.
See you see, EVERYONE has grievances, but its all about perception.
But Damascus was never their homeland Anon, besides, if we give them full rights just like any other original Syrian minority, soon you will see all Kurds from Norway, to Turkey to Iraq standing in lines to come to Syria.
you can solve this by giving Kurds who have lived in Syria for more than an amount of time full rights and citizenships. but not to new visitors.
anon @ 3:03 -- sounds like israeli arabs doesnt it? i mean, if you lived here and DID NOT leave in 1948, you can stay, but if you fled - go live or stay in another country...
its the same damn line..but you see the perception is different...and why?
because you believe that syrian national interests trumps all..(and is higher than any kurdish right) -- eeerily similiar.
my lord, you syrians are really israeli's mascarading as damascusfolk.
cmon be serious...
shou shabeb, wel3ane el sahra?
oops sorry I mean
shloon akhii? wal3anii el sahraa?
I think we have a Lebanese tente 3amma ykazder 3anna...
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Anon @ 4:09:
National interest is above all in all countries of the world. from America to Zimbabwe, we cannot let Kurds who have never lived in Syria get aSyrian passport and come in and out freely like that. We treat them like the French treat the Americans, everything needs proper documentation, that's all!
Tareq:
Your quote
"we cannot let Kurds who have never lived in Syria get aSyrian passport and come in and out freely like that."
Guess that also applies to the "right of return" for Palestinians who have NEVER lived in that land, as they live in other countries- correct?
Anon!
Palestinians have the right to return to their homeland which is Palestine.
Kurds have the right to return to their homeland which is: Not Syria. It is what known as Kurdistan.
The Face of Islamic Religious Intolerance
Today, as I knew they would, crazed Palestinian mobs are desecrating 25 synagogues in Gaza, setting them on fire and destroying what it took years to build. I have visited almost all of these synagogues, prayed in many of them. I cannot even begin to put into words the pain I feel today, the anger, and the sadness.
The world, as I expected, is silent. The UN's Kofi Annan was asked to protect the remaining synagogues, but we hear nothing. Empty buildings, they will protest quietly, and what did you expect? Unspoken is the silent message that while the Christian world and the Jewish world would respect places of worship, the Moslem world cannot be held to the same level of accountability. Did you expect any different? No, I did not, though it would be a mistake to assume that knowing they would destroy these holy places in any way lessens the pain.
We can't say that we expected no better, of course, because that would be deemed racist and wrong. It would be insulting to the honorable religion of Islam, even though it is the truth. It would imply that their values are different than ours, even though they are. It would suggest that their culture is one that lacks respect for other religions, one deeply embedded in violence and one that cannot tolerate and respect the beliefs of others. We can't say all that, and so the lie will live on, the destruction go unpunished, the truth left unsaid.
The world will quietly offer Israel their condolences and throughout the world, in places like Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, and even in Poland, Romania, Hungary and the Ukraine, people will wonder if maybe they could destroy a nearby synagogue too. Why should the land on which these buildings sit continue to be "wasted" when there are no Jews around? Could there be a way to rid Europe and Arab countries of these buildings in which Jews once prayed? The first step, of course, is to deny.
Palestinian President Abu Mazen has become a rabbi, apparently. He can now determine the holiness of a synagogue and has issued his rabbinic doctrine that these buildings are no longer synagogues, no longer holy. If you take the wooden pews, the musical instruments, the Bibles, hymnals, altar furnishings and vestments out of a church, is it then permissible to burn it down? Does it lose its sanctity because the inner contents has been removed?
Perhaps others are wondering if they too could use the Palestinian excuse that a building stripPed and desecrated is no longer holy and can be destroyed. How many Jewish cemeteries are there in Europe? Are Jews ever likely to return to Iraq? Must Tunisia protect the remaining synagogues? What of Morocco?
Luckily, our holy places will be saved by the most unlikely source. Abu Mazen has one problem in making his claim believable. His own people reject his words. Watch the pictures of them dancing on the rooftops of these buildings, see how they set fire to these holy places.
In his mad rush for the border, Sharon gave the Palestinians millions of dollars in infrastructure, public buildings, lighting, roads and more. And yet the pictures in the media are all the same. The Palestinian mobs are frantic and out of control in their bloodthirsty quest to destroy the synagogues because they recognize that these places are holy to the Jews.
What interest would they have in simply destroying a building? They will scavenge around and take what they can ... but the synagogues are being destroyed. Why burn and damage them if not for the intense hate-filled desire to destroy something that represents Judaism, a non-Moslem place of worship?
But it is not only the pictures from Gaza that cause me great pain today, not just the hatred and destruction that we all knew was inevitable. Add in a debate going on now in England, civilized England. At first glance it seems like it is a different topic entirely, and yet, it its own way, it is the same debate, albeit in a more civilized environment. Perhaps commemorating Holocaust Day is too Jewish, say a team of advisors to Prime Minister Tony Blair. Perhaps it would be more politically correct to call it Genocide Day so as to avoid insulting England's growing Moslem population.
How appropriate that this debate would be raised on days when synagogues are again being burned and destroyed. Would England deny the unique place the Holocaust has in world history? Are the Holocaust and the few days we commemorate it not sacred? There have been many attempts at genocide throughout the centuries, but none were as systematic, as civilized and endorsed as the Holocaust.
Nowhere, never, was the machine of a government focused so totally on obliterating all traces of a religion or people in such an efficient and barbaric way while being accompanied by the silence of nations who could have, should have done something.
Not since Nazi Germany have so many synagogues been destroyed. Moslem intolerance is well known and yet the world continues to be silent. Why was the world silent when 2000 Hindi temples were destroyed by Moslems in India? When will the world finally react to Islamic religious intolerance? Would the world remain silent if 25 churches were burned in one day? Where is the Vatican's voice of outrage as the synagogues in Gaza burn? I can only imagine what fury there would be if Israel were to now demolish 25 mosques on Israeli soil.
Just three days ago, I stood in the Yamit Yeshiva in Neve Dekalim last week, the famous synagogue in the shape of a Jewish star. Abu Mazen has promised that this building will be destroyed. Apparently its continued existence would be an insult to the Palestinians who do not believe in the sanctity of any religion but their own.
As I walked around, there was a swirl of action. Soldiers moved quickly back and forth removing whatever could be taken. The books had been removed, the holy Torah scrolls long since taken away so they would not see the shame of what would come. The High Court had not yet ruled whether Israel should destroy the buildings in anticipation of the desecration Abu Mazen and his government was promising. But the soldiers knew destruction was coming soon.
In the end, the Israeli government made the correct choice. We will not destroy synagogues. We will not send a signal to the world that it is acceptable to wantonly destroy the holy places of our religion or another, and so today, as yesterday and tomorrow, mosques will be safe in Israel while synagogues burn elsewhere.
Jews do not destroy places of worship even if the alternative in the end is the desecration of these Houses of God at the hands of rioting mobs who worship terror, incite violence and care not for any buildings or any people, not even their own. The world will not admit it, it can't be said or written, but Jews honor churches, mosques and synagogues throughout our country and in our communities. Since the Holocaust, the Jewish synagogues in Europe have largely been protected and public outcries have often resulted when desecrations have occurred.
Israelis even protect Arab holy sites when they are built on top of our holy places, as they are on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, Joseph's Tomb, Samuel's Tomb and the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron.
The face of the future state of Palestine can be seen in the actions of Palestinians today. There is an impossible divide between our culture and theirs, our dreams and the nightmares they would force upon us.
Jews made their stand yesterday by not destroying their synagogues. Palestinians made their stand today by burning and desecrating them. The remaining question now is what the Christian world will do. Will you express outrage at Islamic intolerance or continue in silence?
interesting read, but off topic.
It is interesting, you can't fight fire by fire..but if you really want to look at it! who disrespected a whole race to begin with?
anon @1:34
Guess that would be the Jews?
But, I diasgree -- I mean if you look at it from a purely "holistic" point of you -- from AFAR - not as a particpiant -- you will quicly see that Israeli Arabs have more freedom than ANY Arab living in Arab land. They also have the highest income level, highest standard of living - and best medical care.
So, you see -- there aint too many Israeli Arabs itching to leave to run to a Arab neighbor to live and work.
I'd call that real and factual.
Of course, you would call it something else -- but bottom line all is not just want you percieve (or can process) nor I -- but just look at facts.
screw whoever killed Harriri..
Why didn't they kill Samir GeaGea and all the Lebanese Forces? or Aoun with his Free Democratic Movement or the flip flopping Jumblatt?
I really think it is the Lebanese Forces/ Kataeb and all those fools who join them who figured the only way to get that GeaGea peace of shit out and disarm Hizbolla was to get Harriri, who was liked by them all.
Having freedom in Israel has nothing to do with whether it was fair or not fair in the way it was established and shaped Middle East policies.
Jews were persecuted for more than 2000 years, trying to get their lands back. When they got a chance, they had to do it right, i.e have freedom and all that crap.
Give us 2000 years and see where we'll all be.
To the fool who copied and pasted The "Rats jumping" story:
I deleted your post, which was copied and pasted by another fool before you. If your brain is too fried to write something interesting in here, go to www.cartoonnetwork.com and play some games that should rehabilitate your damaged brain cells.
To all other bloggers, thank you for your comments. Israel/ Palestine is a big issue. dancing like monkeys on roofs of deserted Synagogues is really backwarded and uncivilized. There is no excuse for it.
On another note, the Anon who said at least Israel gives more rights to Arabs than our leaders do.. I say how could you compare our leaders to politicians in Israel who look after their people? see my post where I applauded all those who looked after the well-being of their nations. We are working with the movements to get you your rights straight. Join in, if you want to help and get your "rights" Ihope they are clean!
"Why didn't they kill Samir GeaGea and all the Lebanese Forces? or Aoun with his Free Democratic Movement or the flip flopping Jumblatt?"
I dont want to defend those 2 warlords who have blood on their hands, but I'm just going to remind you that Aoun, who opposed syria, was sent in a forced exile after his presidential palace was invaded by the syrian army. Geagea, who boycotted the syria-loving gouvernement was sent to prison by the same gouvernement after a trial that was highly contested by international NGOs.
Now that is off topic, so to go back to what you said, there are already 4 suspects for this crime and they have been incarcerated. They are all close to the the very pro-syrian Lahoud, and it's very difficult to find a connection between them and LF or the LFPM. As a matter of fact they (the 4 incarcerated generals) are probably the ones behind the beating of LF and LFPM students during demonstrations.
My friend, you seem to be buying a lot of the syrian state propaganda. OK I know it's not proper to criticize our neighbours, especially when lebanon is not an example of democracy either, but I'm just speaking my mind and being honest to you.
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