In Times of Unconventional Circumstances...
"In times of unconventional Circumstances, conventional means of Governing should be abolished"
...Do you agree or not?
Meaning, during times of turbulence, coups, instability, Emergency laws and policing measures should be taken. That was the legacy of Hafez Assad. To him, We were still technically at war with Israel until the day he died...
I agree. But I think he could have done better in making Syria a better place.
...Do you agree or not?
Meaning, during times of turbulence, coups, instability, Emergency laws and policing measures should be taken. That was the legacy of Hafez Assad. To him, We were still technically at war with Israel until the day he died...
I agree. But I think he could have done better in making Syria a better place.
posted by The One and Only O.D.M @ 11:35 AM
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I agree, but Unconventional Methods do not mean wiping a whole town with its inhabitants.
Haffez could have been a lot smarter.
Unconventional, is the way Syria was ruled, and still is:
Dynastical rule yet not a Kingdom
The champions of socialism steal millions and have adopted the attitude you only live once.
Freedom!!!! as defined by one important member of the clan (who Syria paid dearly to provide for him when he was excised, QUATE “ we are free to eat, shit and marry “
Little this shit knows that he is among the very few lucky SOB.
Justice has become a rare commodity only the ones who can afford the price might find it
UNITY !!!!There is the biggest laugh. In Arabic unity is called “ WEHDAH”!!!!! Sure enough they brought it on, so SYRIA has become very much WAHDAH.
Israel and it’s danger on us has become a black satire and what makes it blacker is when our so called leaders continuously playing this broken record.
As matter of fact, Israel and it’s threat has been a blessing in disguise for all the Syrians rulers particularly, the ASSAD clan. The Father used it to hand down Syria to his son, and the son will no doubt, hand it down to his son and so on and so forth.
(As the saying in Arabic goes …(SHARR AL BALIYATI MA YUDHIKU )
O D M
Please comfirm or investigate this rumor. It has been reported
that the Marines are now inside the
western border, fighting with(killing and chasing)
Syrian troops. What do you say?
ezgoer
My man,
I do not want to defend the syrian regime, but I want to argue that there is no real democracy.
Democracy in America sucks. Lobbying is politics in America. Lobbying is definately not a vote. It is the influenc that the rich and powerful (the previlaged) practice in the lobby of the house and senate.
Those previlaged ones in my opinion are the same as the
'previlaged' ones Ruling Syria.
Long Live Syria.. change has to come from within, from its ow people. O.D.M whatever happened to your Civil Disobedience Ultimatum?
"I do not want to defend the syrian regime, but I want to argue that there is no real democracy."
There may be no democracy - but really WHO CARES - at least over there you can sleep peacefully, knowing that the gouvernement is protecting you. Cops are helpful civilised, and well trained to always make the best decision.
You are blessed with true freedom, freedom to say what you think, freedom to walk around naked... and most important of all you know where your freedom ends and you know what you can expect if you trespass... and it will be a fair judgement. As long as you are exercising your freedom, the police is here to protect you from the smallest offece and they will not ask for a bottle of blue label or a "cross" of marlboro to do their job.
Thant's what people really want.
Down here in lebanon we dont dare to call the cops unless someone died or something like that.
I was in canada, wherever I went, I felt as if everything was organised, and that all my needs were anticipated, no stress, nothing to worry about, everyone knew what they were doing.
Walid moallem said yesterday that his gouvernement will bend over but he'll only accept to take 10cm and not the whole 12cm...
Well that's not exactly what he said... he said that syria will hand over high-ranking officials to Mehlis in Vienna, but only 5 of the 6, and he called it "a compromise".
Sorry for flooding your comments.
I just thought I could share this:
http://www.lebanese-forces.org/news/viewarticle.php?id=1904
Car plunging in the valley, huh? how likely is that? Yet you have to say they're a bit late... he was already questionned and everything.
DEBKAfile’s sources close to the investigation report that Syrian president Bashar Assad has managed to hold back his strongman brother-in-law Gen. Assef Shawqat from interrogation at UN headquarters in Vienna as a suspect in the Hariri assassination. By Friday night, Nov. 26, the Syrian ruler had bowed to the UN investigator Detlev Mehlis' ultimatum to let the suspects be quizzed outside Syria. But DEBKAfile discloses he did so on his own legal terms and without the senior suspect. He also obtained from Mehlis a pledge that no arrest warrants would be issued against the remaining five. But above all, we reveal, he persuaded Russian president Valdimir Putin to underwrite Mehlis’ pledge to comply with his terms and promise to veto any anti-Syrian resolution tabled by UN secretary Kofi Annan, the US or France condemning Syria’s failure to cooperate with the international probe.
The high-ranking Syrian officers the UN investigator demanded to question outside Syria are:
Gen. Assef Shawqat, head of Syrian military intelligence and strongman of the Baath regime, Gen. Rustum Ghazaleh, Syrian intelligence chief in Lebanon at the time of the murder and current overlord of all Syria’s intelligence agencies, his deputy Col. Jam’a Jam’a, Gen. Bajhat Suleiman, head of Syrian intelligence council, Brig-Gen Zaafar al Yusuf, head of Syrian intelligence signals department, and Brig. Abdel Karim Abbas, head of its Palestine Dept. Gen. Shawqat has escaped the probe for the moment.
DEBKAfile reveals a further setback for the Mehlis inquiry: A key witness was found dead Saturday, 26 Nov, in a deep wadi near the village of Batrin on Mt. Lebanon. In the interim report he filed in October, he placed high value on the evidence of the eight cell phone lines, which were used by the assassins and the Syrian intelligence officers directing them at the time of the crime. The phones were purchased at a shop in Beirut port owned by Nawar Dora. It was his body that was discovered.
Friday, Nov. 25, DEBKA-Net-Weekly revealed the Syrian president’s terms for allowing his top officials to be questioned outside the country in an exclusive report:
Syrian president Bashar Assad tried every possible dodge to keep all six high officers away from Detlev Mehlis and his interrogation of the Rafiq Hariri assassination.
But the UN investigator, whose final report must be in by December 15, is equally determined to get hold of them on his terms. Meanwhile he is methodically building up his case against the men in high places of the Assad regime.
An urgent request sent by Syrian foreign minister Farouk a-Shara Wednesday, Nov. 23, for the UN secretary-general Kofi Annan’s intercession, was not a genuine attempt to break out of the impasse over the six officers; it was yet another stratagem to play for time.
Shara did not specify what compromise he had in mind, or where Damascus stood on the issue. But DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s intelligence sources reveal that seven Syrian conditions were laid down at a secret meeting that took place in Barcelona on Nov. 18 between Mehlis and the Syrian foreign ministry’s legal adviser Riad Daoudi. Our sources have obtained the text of those conditions:
1. Mehlis must publish an official disavowal of the testimony presented by one of the central witnesses in the investigation, Muhammad Zouhayr Asseddiq, a Syrian intelligence officer who fled to Saudi Arabia and then Paris. In his interim report to the UN Security Council, Mehlis termed Asseddiq the key witness of his investigation.
Our sources note that the UN investigator would undermine his own report if he disowned this witness.
2. The UN investigators must undertake not to bring masked witnesses into the same room as the six Syrian officers.
Syria is aware that the UN team has Syrian and Lebanese witnesses in addition to Asseddiq and wants to avoid an incriminating confrontation with the six suspects.
DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s intelligence sources offer here some particulars of the UN inquiry’s surprise witnesses.
3. The UN inquiry must notify Damascus of any witnesses of the same type as Assediq.
4. The UN Secretary must provide guarantees that no foreign intelligence service will be co-opted to the Hariri investigation or given access to the testimony given to the team.
This stipulation is unrealistic. In his interim report to the Security Council, Detlev Mehlis thanked the various intelligence services who assisted and are still assisting his inquiry.
5. Before starting to interrogate the six Syrian officers, the UN investigator must make a public statement praising Syria for fully cooperating with the inquiry team and affirming that it has not complaints against Damascus.
6. The UN and Mehlis in person must pledge not to stage any confrontation between the six Syrian officers and the four Lebanese officials in detention in Beirut as suspects in the Hariri murder.
7. Before getting down to questioning the Syrian officers, the UN investigator must take one of two steps: either bring absolute proofs that the two apartments rented in the Hamra district of Beirut as headquarters for the assassination operation were visited by Syrian officers – or, admit publicly that no such proofs exist and the charges against those officers are false.
Publication of either statement would gravely undermine the credibility of all parts of the Mehlis report.
President Assad is now demanding that the UN secretary treat Syria’s seven-point ultimatum as a compromise solution for the crisis over the six Syrian officers.
Chou hal conditions ya zalame bashar ra7 e 3abbeh bel 7ayt
Re. this post:
"Let's not Forget to Expel Israel Too
Thomas Pain, October 29, 2005"
Please check:
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_article=766&x_context=2
Tsedek,
Israel
Regardless of what public israeli official say (or do not say), they will do anything to preserve their country. They have done terrorist bombings at the beginning of the century (against the british), they have detained lebanese prisoners in inhumane conditions, they have broken the bones of palestinian people with stones... and that's only what I know.
If they are being nice lately it is just because they do not need to be mean.
Thanks for clearing up what your leader said anyways.
Dont get me wrong I am in no way defending the palestinians. I wish Lebanon would have done what jordan did, that is throw out the palestinians with the protection of the IDF. It may have spared the country 15 years of war... or not... the Lebanese political system is such that a war may have happened anyway, knowing the state of politics at that time... every politician was maintaining his own private milicia (what for, for god's sake?) and his own propaganda machine. The gouvernement was (still is) setting an example of religious discrimination by reserving posts to religious communities.
Religion was (is) interleaved with education, children getting brainwashed since their smallest age, the gouvernement not being able to agree on a common view of history.
Social inequalities were (are) huge, with politicians totally ignoring social questions and never mentionning them, being too caught up in their childish verbal wars.
The weak lebanese army did not do any more effect then a damp cracker, before pitifully disintegrating.
(thankfully the army has grown since). The lebanese political system is as such as any crisis will paralyze the gouvernement.
Unfortunately a lot of these condition did not change and we lebanese are all sick of this situation.
We lebanese have paid dearly with decades of war for the stupidity of those who call themselves "leaders" and "politicians". The fathers and the sons and now the grandsons.
what do you think about the press converence of the "houssam houssam" "witness"?
In case you dont know about it, here's a link:
http://tinyurl.com/9jtdv
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